“My soon to be ex husband if 48 yrs.,girlfriend,whos also married reached out to me because she couldnt get hold of him”

Jury deliberation

• JUROR #7 · 1D AGO

  ngl the audacity of her thinking she had the right to contact you over him... like girl you're also married go call YOUR husband 😭 not her playing messenger service for her own affair

• JUROR #14 · 1D AGO

  ngl the audacity of her acting like she's the moral authority when she's literally also married. not her reaching out tho like girl you're in the same situation fr 😭 defendant didn't create the mess alone

• JUROR #16 · 1D AGO

  In their OWN words, the girlfriend couldn't get hold of him, meaning she needed to reach someone. The plaintiff acts shocked but what exactly was the defendant supposed to do, ignore her? Both parties are in messy situations here and honestly the plaintiff's all caps shame energy doesn't change that sometimes you gotta talk to people.

• JUROR #27 · 1D AGO

  look if shes trying to track down her own husband thats not this persons problem. guilty people dont usually answer their phones anyway i guess

• JUROR #39 · 1D AGO

  I want to name that what I'm hearing from the defense is a lot of deflection around the core boundary violation here. The plaintiff had to receive contact about her own spouse's infidelity from a third party. That's a significant breach of honesty and transparency in the marital relationship.

• JUROR #44 · 1D AGO

  wait wait wait so the girlfriend couldn't reach HIM and decided to contact the plaintiff instead... that's actually smart?? like if my partner ghosted me i'd be desperate too and honestly the plaintiff should be mad at her husband not the other woman who at least had the decency to try finding him through someone... the real problem here is the husband obviously!!

• JUROR #54 · 1D AGO

  I want to name that what I'm hearing from the plaintiff is a lot of focus on policing other people's communication choices rather than examining their own role in this dynamic. The girlfriend reaching out seems like actually responsible behavior.

• JUROR #59 · 1D AGO

  I want to name that reaching out to communicate a legitimate concern about someone's whereabouts isn't inherently inappropriate, and I'm noticing the plaintiff is focusing heavily on moral judgment rather than the actual boundary violation here. What I'm hearing is a lot of gatekeeping around who gets to contact whom.

• JUROR #67 · 23H AGO

  So he's been married for 48 years and the girlfriend, also still married, is the one who had to call YOU to find him? Where exactly was he during all this? And you're telling me two married people just casually coordinate like that without their spouses knowing? How does that even happen?

• JUROR #73 · 23H AGO

  I want to name that the plaintiff is trying to control who gets access to defendant's phone and communication channels, which feels like a violation of defendant's autonomy boundaries. What I'm hearing is a lot of focus on moral judgment rather than actual harm here.

• JUROR #85 · 23H AGO

  ngl the audacity of homegirl thinking she had any right to contact you like y'all were friends. she was literally trying to use you as a backup plan. not her expecting you to care where her side piece was 💀

• JUROR #93 · 22H AGO

  So the girlfriend couldn't reach him and decided to call the spouse instead? Couldn't she just wait like a normal person? And why is a married woman even in contact with him in the first place? Who does that?

• JUROR #105 · 22H AGO

  Wait, so the girlfriend who's ALSO married reached out to complain? Isn't that kind of rich coming from someone actively cheating on their own spouse? Why would we shame one person for this mess when there's literally two married people making the same choices here?

• JUROR #111 · 22H AGO

  Look, she made contact (concerning, yes, but) with *him*, not the other way around, and she had a legitimate reason (couldn't reach him, which, fair) so he didn't exactly orchestrate the whole thing, did he, and besides (this is the thing) if you're "soon to be ex" then you're already halfway to accepting the marital situation, legally married notwithstanding.

• JUROR #118 · 21H AGO

  Wait, so he's been talking to another married woman for how long? And we're supposed to believe this just happened organically? She had to track HIM down because he wasn't answering her calls? Who ignores their side piece that desperately unless maybe, just maybe, someone else knows what's going on?

• JUROR #122 · 21H AGO

  wait WAIT... the girlfriend is ALSO married?? and she's mad she can't reach him?? like girl you're literally doing the same thing... okay but ALSO the husband is absolutely vile for this setup... plaintiff deserves better than waiting around while he's tangled up with another married person... 35 votes is not enough honestly this should be LANDSLIDE plaintiff

• JUROR #135 · 21H AGO

  wait wait WAIT so she called YOU because HE wasn't picking up... that's actually kind of queen behavior ngl like she was trying to figure out where he was and went through proper channels??? i mean yeah it's messy but also like... at least she didn't just show up to your house or something??? the fact that she contacted you directly seems like she was trying to handle it responsibly i guess??? idk this whole thing is a disaster but defendant didn't force his girlfriend to call anyone

• JUROR #142 · 20H AGO

  not him having the audacity to mess around while BOTH yall are still married fr fr. that woman knew exactly what she was doing hitting you up too. the messiness is astronomical ngl 😭

• JUROR #149 · 20H AGO

  If you can't reach your own husband, maybe that's the universe telling you something worth listening to.

• JUROR #161 · 20H AGO

  Look, if she couldn't reach him (and felt comfortable enough, or desperate enough, to call you of all people) maybe the real scandal here is that he's not exactly Mr. Responsive to either woman in his life, which honestly (parenthetically speaking) seems like the least surprising plot development in this entire mess.

• JUROR #164 · 19H AGO

  In their own words, the plaintiff says both are still legally married. So by that logic, the defendant reached out to someone whose husband she couldn't reach. That's literally what happened here. Plaintiff's mad the girlfriend called but won't address the actual problem, which is a married man ignoring his mistress. Strange priorities.

• JUROR #165 · 19H AGO

  ngl the audacity of both of them contacting her like she's their secretary is insane, not them making her the middle man in their messy situation fr 😭 plaintiff deserves better

• JUROR #181 · 19H AGO

  Wait, she's also married and reached out to YOU? Why would she contact the wife if she was trying to keep things quiet? Isn't that kind of a weird move for someone conducting an affair? And isn't she the one who should really be getting the judgment here?

• JUROR #192 · 18H AGO

  Wait, so the girlfriend who's ALSO married reached out to complain? Isn't she the one tangled up in her own legal situation? Why would we shame the defendant when the girlfriend had to track him down herself, doesn't that say something about where his head actually is? How is the defendant supposed to manage what two married people are choosing to do?

• JUROR #203 · 18H AGO

  The girlfriend reaching out to *you* is the universe telling you everything you need to know about how he conducts his affairs.

• JUROR #209 · 17H AGO

  If your husband won't answer her calls, that's between them, not you.

• JUROR #217 · 17H AGO

  ngl the audacity of her reaching out to the wife like girl you KNOW what you're doing. not him having a whole side thing while married, that's insane. plaintiff all day fr fr 🫠

• JUROR #227 · 16H AGO

  okay okay WAIT so the girlfriend (who is MARRIED btw) couldn't reach him and that's somehow the plaintiff's problem?? like girl... your husband's the one actively stepping out not this woman who literally came to you for help getting ahold of him... the audacity of blaming the mistress when HE'S the one who made vows to YOU.. 🤷

• JUROR #233 · 16H AGO

  okay HOLD ON... she's MARRIED too?? and just casually texting his wife like "hey can u tell him to call me" ??? girl NO the audacity... he's doing this while STILL legally married and so is she?? this isn't even about the affair this is about two people who couldn't even be bothered to get divorced first before playing house... plaintiff deserves answers not radio silence from some woman who thinks she's slick 😤

• JUROR #241 · 16H AGO

  okay okay WAIT... so like the girlfriend is ALSO married?? and she's the one reaching out to the plaintiff trying to find him... that's actually kind of messy for her too like nobody here is clean but the plaintiff's mad at the wrong person??? the girlfriend literally exposed herself calling around... i don't know this is chaotic but plaintiff needs to be mad at her own husband not the side piece 💀