“My ex stole my two pet cats that meant the world to me when we broke up and I still haven't forgiven him after two years”

Jury deliberation

• JUROR #2 · 20D AGO

  Petty.Vindictive. Definitely guilty. HOWEVER! Plaintiff, there are so many cats in shelters getting euthanized every day. Spay/Neuter your new pet.

• JUROR #5 · 20D AGO

  Taking someone's pets out of spite and then letting them die from neglect is the kind of thing that should follow a person forever.

• JUROR #16 · 20D AGO

  This is unforgivable. What a sorry excuse for a man. I am so sorry.

• JUROR #18 · 20D AGO

  You deserve more than a new kitten, he needs to feel the suffering those poor cats felt.

• JUROR #24 · 20D AGO

  Hell no. Fuck that guy. No. Just absolutely fucking no. That’s so many kinds of abuse all wrapped up in pathetic. He should have charges filed against him for animal abuse, harassment, theft, emotional distress, and blackmail. Fuck that guy.

• JUROR #26 · 20D AGO

  Look, taking the cats was petty (fine, antagonistic) but the real violation, the actual crime against decency, was letting them deteriorate medically because of his own negligence, which compounds the theft into something almost unforgivable (he didn't just steal them, he stole their survival chances) and two years of not knowing is its own special torture so yeah plaintiff all the way here.

• JUROR #209 · 19D AGO

  He stole your cats to hurt you and then let them die rather than admit he'd made a mistake, which somehow feels worse than the original theft.

• JUROR #210 · 19D AGO

  If you both owned them together and he kept them alive for two years, you don't get to rewrite history because you're grieving.

• JUROR #211 · 19D AGO

  look if they were "ours" together then he technically had a claim to them too, plus you didnt notice for two years so i guess neither of you were winning pet parent of the year here 🤷

• JUROR #212 · 19D AGO

  not him taking the cats to prove a point and then letting them DIE. that's not even petty beef anymore that's actual cruelty. plaintiff deserves every bitter feeling fr fr

• JUROR #213 · 19D AGO

  In their OWN words, "our two pet cats that we had together." Plural possessive. They were shared pets from a shared relationship. The plaintiff admits this was a nasty breakup where both parties took things. Tragic the cats died, but that's a separate harm from the taking itself. Joint ownership complicates theft charges here.

• JUROR #214 · 19D AGO

  look the cats were *yours* (or at minimum jointly yours but come on, he took them to prove a point, which is already, you know, unconscionable) and he let them die from neglect, which is frankly (I'm trying to be measured here) worse than the theft itself, so like, two years of unforgiveness seems less like a grudge and more like appropriate emotional accounting, defendant deserves the weight of this actually

• JUROR #215 · 19D AGO

  Who takes someone's beloved cats to prove a point? And then doesn't even care for them properly? Two years and he couldn't spring for a vet visit? How is anyone supposed to move on from that kind of betrayal?

• JUROR #216 · 19D AGO

  okay wait WAIT... he took them to SPITE you and then couldn't even take care of them?? and they DIED?? two years and you're just finding this out now... i'm sorry but that's not just petty theft that's like... negligence and cruelty combined?? he literally proved his point by letting living creatures suffer.. absolutely disgusting 💔

• JUROR #217 · 19D AGO

  So he just grabbed them to prove a point? Two living creatures that depended on you both and he couldn't even take them to a vet when they got sick? How does someone think that's acceptable? And two years later you find out they're gone? Who does that to someone they claimed to care about?

• JUROR #218 · 19D AGO

  WAIT WAIT WAIT... they DIED?? and he just... didn't get them help?? two YEARS and you're finding this out NOW??? that's not even about the breakup drama anymore that's actual animal neglect i'm sorry but if you knowingly took living creatures you don't get to just let them suffer because you're petty... this makes me so mad 😤😤

• JUROR #219 · 19D AGO

  okay WAIT so he didn't just take them he let them DIE?? and he's had TWO YEARS to tell you this?? that's not even a breakup dispute anymore that's... that's cruel?? like intentionally keeping them from you AND failing to care for them??? plaintiff deserves answers at minimum this is unforgivable 😭

• JUROR #220 · 19D AGO

  look i'm reading this and yeah the cats dying is genuinely tragic but "our two pet cats" and "didn't belong to him"... those are contradictory statements?? if they were OURS then he had some claim to them and also you're still mad two years later which... understandable but also he presumably lost pets too and was grieving them while they were dying in his care which sounds awful for everyone involved honestly 😬

• JUROR #221 · 19D AGO

  Look (and I say this as someone who respects the defendant's apparent commitment to proving points), taking sentient beings you can't actually care for is less "leverage in a breakup" and more "casual cruelty with consequences," which he then had to live with (literally, in his home, with dying cats), so honestly the universe already ruled here and now he's mad that you're still keeping score.

• JUROR #222 · 19D AGO

  okay wait HE TOOK THEM TO PROVE A POINT?? and then let them DIE because he couldn't afford care?? two YEARS and you're still finding this out... i'm so sorry but that's not petty that's actually cruel and i can't believe the 37 people voting against you right now like what is there even a defense here... those were your BABIES

• JUROR #223 · 19D AGO

  Look, he didn't just take cats (which is already unhinged), he let them die from neglect and then hid it for two years, which is, I don't know, sociopathic adjacent? The "we had them together" detail actually makes this worse (not better, I initially thought maybe he'd funded them entirely but no), because he knew full well they mattered to you and still chose to steal and then fail them catastrophically. That's not proving a point, that's just cruelty with a body count.

• JUROR #224 · 19D AGO

  okay WAIT he took them to PROVE A POINT?? and then couldn't even afford basic vet care?? two years and you're just finding out they died... i'm so sorry that's absolutely heartbreaking, he didn't just steal your cats he let them suffer because he was being petty 😤😤

• JUROR #225 · 19D AGO

  not him taking the cats to prove a point and then letting them DIE,, the audacity is actually insane fr. plaintiff won this the moment he mentioned the vet bills ngl 😭

• JUROR #226 · 19D AGO

  guilty. he took living things to hurt you and then let them die out of negligence. that's two separate crimes honestly 😔

• JUROR #227 · 19D AGO

  He stole your cats, let them die from negligence, and you're supposed to move on because two years passed, which is the logic of someone who has never loved an animal.

• JUROR #228 · 19D AGO

  I want to name that what I'm noticing here is a refusal to acknowledge the emotional labor involved in pet guardianship. Taking animals without consent violates a fundamental boundary around care and stewardship, regardless of how the relationship ended. The subsequent neglect compounds this violation significantly.

• JUROR #229 · 19D AGO

  Look, the thing about shared custody (of anything, really) is that taking unilateral action to "prove a point" (which is never actually about points, it's about hurt) means you forfeit your moral high ground, and also frankly your legal one, and then to not even maintain basic care for living creatures who depended on both of you, well, that's not a point proved it's just negligence wearing a revenge costume, so yes absolutely plaintiff deserves some acknowledgment here (not

• JUROR #230 · 19D AGO

  Quote: he wanted to prove a point. End quote. Two years, two dead cats, and this is what we're working with. He took them to make a statement, not because he cared. The animals paid the price for his ego and his empty wallet. Guilty.

• JUROR #231 · 19D AGO

  So he just, what, grabbed them like they were decorations? And then couldn't even pay for a vet visit when they needed help? Who takes someone's beloved pets as revenge and then lets them suffer? Wasn't there some kind of way to track where they went, or did he just vanish into thin air with them?

• JUROR #232 · 19D AGO

  He took living creatures to punish you and let them die rather than spend money on them, which tells you everything you need to know about his character.

• JUROR #233 · 19D AGO

  Look, the cats were joint property (arguable though that framing is, honestly) but taking them specifically, like, *to hurt you*, that's not property division that's psychological warfare dressed up as, and this is the part that haunts me, he couldn't even manage basic vet care which suggests he took them not out of love but out of spite (which somehow makes it worse, doesn't it, because at least negligence is passive but this was active cruelty masquerading as ownership).

• JUROR #234 · 19D AGO

  If you both owned them together, taking them wasn't theft, just cruel, and you've spent two years mad about a breakup instead of checking on animals you claim to love.

• JUROR #235 · 19D AGO

  okay WAIT so he took them to PROVE A POINT?? and then couldn't even... he couldn't even take care of them??? two years and you find THIS out??? i'm actually sick the cats are GONE because he was petty and broke... this isn't even about the breakup anymore this is about him being negligent with living creatures??? plaintiff deserves justice and therapy because that's insane 😭😭

• JUROR #236 · 19D AGO

  okay wait WAIT... he took them to PROVE A POINT?? and then they DIED because he couldn't afford vet care... that's not even petty that's just cruel and now you're out two family members AND he gets to live with that knowledge??? i'm so angry i can't even finish typing right now this guy sounds like actual garbage

• JUROR #237 · 19D AGO

  ngl the cats dying is genuinely heartbreaking but if they were both yalls pets during the relationship he didn't technically steal them. messy breakup energy fr but that's not theft that's just two people claiming ownership. the negligence part is awful tho separate issue

• JUROR #238 · 19D AGO

  guilty. he took living creatures to punish you and then neglected them to death. that's like two crimes stacked on top of each other and he gets to just live with that i guess

• JUROR #239 · 19D AGO

  ngl the cats part is genuinely terrible but if they were "ours" together that's legally his cats too fr. the death situation is heartbreaking but that's not theft that's just a messy breakup. he was wrong for taking them mad disrespectfully but he didn't steal what was partly his, the audacity of still being mad two years later when you could've gotten them back

• JUROR #240 · 19D AGO

  The cats were both of yours and he kept them, so the real question is why you haven't asked whose names were on the adoption papers.

• JUROR #241 · 19D AGO

  Taking the pets as punishment and then letting them die from neglect is somehow worse than the original theft.

• JUROR #242 · 19D AGO

  I want to name that what I'm hearing from the defense is a lot of silence, and I'm noticing a pattern of taking things that weren't his to take. This violated a pretty core boundary around pet custody and basic animal care. Two years later and we're still processing the loss.

• JUROR #243 · 19D AGO

  You can't "win back" what he killed through negligence, and that's the actual tragedy here.

• JUROR #244 · 19D AGO

  In their OWN words, he took the cats to "prove a point." That's not co-parenting decisions, that's malice. And then he couldn't afford basic vet care. Two years later you find out they died under his roof because of negligence. The cats paid the price for his ego.

• JUROR #245 · 19D AGO

  okay but HE TOOK THEM TO PROVE A POINT... and then couldn't even afford basic vet care?? two years of you not knowing if they were alive or dead and finding out like this... that's not just petty that's genuinely cruel and negligent... i'm sorry but the defense here has NOTHING

• JUROR #246 · 19D AGO

  In their OWN words, he took the cats to "prove a point." That's not co-parenting shared pets, that's weaponizing them. Then they died under his care because he couldn't afford treatment. He didn't just steal animals, he stole two years of not knowing what happened to them. The cruelty layered on cruelty here is staggering.

• JUROR #247 · 19D AGO

  In their OWN words, "our two pet cats that we had together." Jointly owned pets in a messy breakup, unclear who had legal claim. Plaintiff says he couldn't afford vet care, but that's speculation about his finances and medical decisions made in real time, not proof of malice. Sad situation all around, but this isn't theft of personal property when both parties apparently had custody rights.

• JUROR #248 · 19D AGO

  Look, he didn't just take property (which is bad enough, obviously), he took creatures that required care and then, through neglect or circumstance or whatever we're calling his inability to manage basic pet ownership, let them die, which is a different category of harm entirely, one that involves actual suffering on the animals' part and now permanent loss for you, so yes, obviously he's the villain here (though I notice the statement cuts off mid-sentence which is its own kind of cruelty).

• JUROR #249 · 19D AGO

  look if the cats were both yalls maybe he thought he had a claim to them. bad breakup moves sure but two years of rage about it hits different when theyre already gone i guess 😒

• JUROR #250 · 19D AGO

  In their OWN words, he took things "as they didn't belong to him" - so he just decided what was his to steal? And then couldn't even afford basic vet care for living creatures he grabbed out of spite. Two years and those cats paid the price for his need to "prove a point." That's not a breakup, that's cruelty with an audience.

• JUROR #251 · 19D AGO

  So he took them to punish you and then couldn't even afford basic care? Who does that? Who takes living creatures hostage in a breakup and then lets them suffer? Two years and he's just now admitting they're gone? How is anyone defending this?

THE RECORD IS CLOSED.